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Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

Stefan Frank — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:16:03 -0000

Hi Boucher,

sure you're right - I've been through the tutorials and even built my first mini-application: The immediate pain of not knowing where what goes wrong fades a little after the first steps.

Still, the fact that the browser reports the error in the compiled version, you still have to guess where the error comes from. Even harder for beginners. A littlle bit like early jsp...

I found the debugging-tutorial and after installing the cappuccino-tools and watching some of the screencasts at http://cappuccinocasts.com/ developing with cappuccino starts to feel ok...

However, testing seems to be a little underdeveloped: This is the only thing I could find: http://www.nice-panorama.co... - which is helpful, but a little sparse on the strategies of testing in cappuccino: Are there any more tutorials on testing somewhere? There are some tests in objj/narwhal/test, but I didn't find too many examples for actual cappuccino-application-tests... Any pointers to example would be great!

Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

boucher — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:42:26 -0000

Hi Stefan,

There's a tutorial on debugging and another on Objective-J on the
tutorials section of our website. (http://cappuccino.org/learn/
tutorials).

There is an OJUnit framework which is included in the tools
installation of Cappuccino. It runs on top of rhino, and right now is
mostly suitable for non visual testing.

The easiest way to find the source of an error is to load it in Safari
4 or a webkit nightly and turn on debugging, and the "Break on
Exception" option. This will give you a stack trace to the problem.

Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

Stefan — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:13:54 -0000

Impressive! It certainly looks beautiful&very complete. I give it a spin today, and my feelings for cappuccino are wow, bad, good, bad again, good again - mixed, to be honest.

Being very new to cappucino, there are two things I might just have been missing: But they are obviously not prominent enough in the documentation:

- what about testing? How to test a cappucino app? Is there some sort of ObjectJUnit I have missed?
- how about debugging? Not the complex things like stepping through, inspecting variables and so on. Just the simple things, like seeing which file produced the error in what line? Every once in a while I got simple problems like a class not being found. This can be easily fixed, because you know which class imports what. The Browser-Error is not of much help: [Exception... "'*** Could not locate file named "AppKit/CALaxer.j" in search paths.' when calling method: [nsIDOMEventListener::handleEvent]" nsresult: "0x8057001c (NS_ERROR_XPC_JS_THREW_JS_OBJECT)" location: "<unknown>" data: no]. All exceptions are thrown by Objective-J.js - so you can only guess where the error comes from. Other errors are just swallowed silently (This maybe points back to messages being swallowed that go to nil-objects - but how do I find the error now?)

To sum it up: I'm seriously impressed about the look&feel and the things you can build with it - but I'm missing some basics here: Sure, it will take a while to get into it, but is there a tutorial on how to get these basics (testing, finding&fixing errors) to work?

Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

MySchizoBuddy — Tue, 26 May 2009 10:49:40 -0000

Feasibility question
How feasible it is right now, to be able to create a Web interface to CouchDB using Cappucino

Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

aquaibm — Mon, 25 May 2009 05:30:20 -0000

Nice,you guys are the best.

Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

alos — Sun, 24 May 2009 01:44:31 -0000

Great jobs guys!

Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

boucher — Sat, 23 May 2009 21:49:06 -0000

Definitely not.

Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

Guest — Sat, 23 May 2009 21:44:34 -0000

Now that we have nib2cib does this mean Atlas is dead?

Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

VerlSnake — Thu, 21 May 2009 09:28:04 -0000

If I'm not in error, the Apple 'Visual Interface Builder' tool is only available for MACs, isn't it ? With regard to approaches in the Apple MAC world, the following post may be interesting, too: http://aralbalkan.com/2152 ...

Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

Craig Jolicoeur — Wed, 20 May 2009 22:28:51 -0000

congrats

Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

Jason — Wed, 20 May 2009 21:43:07 -0000

I'm going to have to give this a go!!

Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

Jules — Wed, 20 May 2009 19:17:02 -0000

This is another impressive step, great work guys!

Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

kriskowal — Wed, 20 May 2009 16:34:39 -0000

Narwhals, narwhals / swimming in the ocean / causing a commotion / 'cause they are so awesome. Narwhals, narwhals / petty big, and pretty wide / they kick that polar bear in the side.
Like an underwater unicorn / they have a kick-ass facial horn / they are the Jedi of the sea.

Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

Andrew — Wed, 20 May 2009 14:12:45 -0000

Great, great, great!

Congratulations Cappuccino team! =D

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Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

boucher — Wed, 20 May 2009 14:08:04 -0000

Yeah, we didn't write the contributor software, but I know this issue has been brought to their attention as well, so we'll pull in a fix once they have one.

Re: Cappuccino 0.7 Now Available

Antonio Cangiano — Wed, 20 May 2009 13:22:35 -0000

Congratulations guys. Just one small point... in the contributors' site, people with a single commit are supposed to be in the 17th position, not the 11th. :)